By Mike Edwards
I am not sure why any fair-minded person would think women can’t fulfill the same leadership roles as men in the spiritual or work realm unless believing God according to a Book requires this. Most would agree not allowing equal roles because of the color of your skin is immoral. I would suggest denying women equal roles is emotional abuse if they are gifted to lead. Does God really believe roles are best determined according to gender than gifts?
Can we determine God’s views according to some Book?
Men who believe roles should be determined according to gender than gifts aren’t all pigs. I used to believe this but my gut could never make sense why a good God would think this way. Many of us were taught to believe because the Bible says so. In many countries a Book is used to suggest God condones women not having the same rights as men to vote, drive, or dress how they want.
I don’t wish to argue though what the Bible says. Some may be unaware the Bible can be interpreted to endorse roles according to gifts not gender. See here. I don’t wish to argue if the biblical writers came to a better understanding of God over time. I only wish to point out that the Bible or any literature requires interpretation, thus why so many disagree over the meaning of the same passages. No one can claim certainty because the Bible says so.
How can we know what God thinks about women and roles?
Saying “I love you” is nonsensical if we don’t have some ideas what “to love” means. Most believe One who claims to be God must be morally perfect. The best way we have to think what a perfect God is like is to discuss what human perfection is. Godly and human perfection surely are one and the same. If we know how we ought to love and treat women, we intuitively know how God ought to love and treat women.
The test for human or godly morality is if treating others like we want to be treated. Terrorists proclaim morality according to a Book but something is amiss – they would object to being beheaded, raped, or denied their freedom of beliefs. Men, we must treat women how we wish to be treated when opportunities arise to lead a church, business, etc. At least let’s not defend our position only because the Bible says so. We do not have to check our moral conscience at the door.
What if moral intuitions clash?
There is universal agreement on most moral matters such as murdering or stealing. We may not agree what a perfect parent or God would do in each situation, but we could agree on many attributes. Keep in mind even if believing the Bible in infallible, interpretations are not infallible. Read the Bible with a questioning spirit while putting ourselves in another’s shoes. Uncertainty, rather than supposed certainty, forces us to be more open-minded.
The most qualified or gifted should surely be the CEO or preach!
I am going to stand on the side that is potentially less abusive to half of God’s creations concerning roles. Similarly, in marriage equalitarian rather than hierarchical relationships are less likely to lead to the mistreatment of women. Do we really want to imply that God doesn’t trust women to handle the Truth? Different opinions, expressed without hostility, surely help lead us to the most loving stance.
Yes John. I am referring to the Bible. Didn’t mean to be vague. We disagree. Scholars who respect the Bible as authoritative don’t all agree the Bible teaches God desires men to be in authority over women. Since different interpretations are possible, I have chosen to error on the side that discourages men having any kind of power over women. Men haven’t done so well with this power over the centuries. Also, not all agree the writers of the Bible always understood God perfectly. God doesn’t usually control the thoughts of others. If interested in another viewpoint you are welcome to check out my website. I have a Tab/Section RETHINKING THE BIBLE.
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The Book that Mike alludes to is, I’m guessing, the Holy Bible. This Book is the ONLY Book that gives us ANY reason or hope for salvation. What is ‘written’ is the revealed will of Almighty God. Remember the warning that Jesus gives us at the conclusion of HIS revealed will: “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If ANYONE adds anything to them, God will add to him the PLAGUES described in this book. And if anyone TAKES words away from this Book of prophecy, God will TAKE AWAY from him his share in the TREE of LIFE and in the holy city, which are described in this BOOK”. ( My emphasise add to key words )
Let meddlers beware, God is not mocked! Playing with fire comes to mind. May I suggest that if you object to the Holy Word of God, that you change your religion. Pick and Mix is NOT for people who want to see heaven!
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Thanks for reading and commenting Sonny. You are probably more familiar with covenant theology than I am. Some may argue the new covenant and the Bible suggests roles are according to gender than gifts. I think we must always be careful in saying “because the Bible says so” because there are different interpretations. It is okay to consider our moral intuitions which could be due to the Spirit’s influence.
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I believe the new covenant offers equality to all women and men. The key would be Elders, your elders and deacons are either in the proper place or not in your gathering.
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